I’m Sick of Stupid

You know, the longer I go on debating people, the more I’m convinced that I’m completely wasting my time trying to debate the utterly stupid.  You know the kind, the ones who will tell you the most absurd things, without a shred of support, will ignore any amount of evidence no matter how well documented and who just ramble on and on no matter how utterly destroyed their claims have been.  It’s not just the religious, although those are certainly one of the worst offenders, it’s lots of people who couldn’t reason their way out of a wet paper sack, yet remain supremely convinced that they have to be right, just because they think they are.

Take this one mental midget earlier tonight who was arguing for illegal immigration.  The debate hit a new low, which is really saying something because it wasn’t particularly high-brow to begin with.  He’s great for throwing around insults every time he gets backed into a corner, then returning with his same old, tired, disproven arguments verbatim because obviously his opponent wasn’t smart enough to get it the first time around.  Somehow, in this particular debate, he’s convinced that because the Native Americans didn’t stop European settlers from showing up, that we somehow have an obligation to take all comers, no matter what.  I pointed out several problems with the claim, of course.

1. There was no unified Native American front from which to grant or deny immigration status.  They not only had no laws regarding immigration, they had no concept of “citizenship” in the first place.  Their idea, in general terms, was that nobody owned the land, therefore claiming that only certain people could come and go was ridiculous to them.
2. As there were no laws regarding immigration, the early European settlers could not, by definition, be considered “illegal immigrants”.  You cannot break a law that does not exist.  That is not the case today.
3. Perhaps most egregious, he claimed that Native Americans somehow “own the land in perpetuity” because they were here first.  The idea of eternal claims on a chunk of dirt are absurd.  Native Americans are no more the permanent owners of North America than amoeba are and certainly primitive amoeba were here long, long, long before the first proto-Native American came across the land bridge from Asia.  This is the same kind of stupid nonsense that has the Jews claiming they own Israel forever.
4. Whatever the Native Americans may or may not have  done hundreds of years ago has absolutely no bearing on U.S. immigration policy today.  It doesn’ matter if they embraced everyone with open arms, that doesn’t obligate us to do so today.

But of course, all of these ideas are firmly wedged into this idiots tiny little mind and nothing short of C4 is going to get them out.  No matter what you say to him, he keeps insisting that he’s right because he cannot fathom the possibility that he just might possibly be wrong.  He makes his arguments by bald assertion, there isn’t a shred of evidence rattling around anywhere in that little pea-sized brain of his.

As much as someone might make the argument that it’s not this self-involved twit that I ought to worry about, but the bystanders, frankly I think the bystanders are all tired of listening to his idiotic rants already.  Anyone who is incapable of seeing through his stupidity is probably a lost cause already.  It’s like looking at people who support Ray Comfort and wondering if they can be saved.  If they’re so utterly blinded by the verbal vomit that comes out of Ray’s mouth now, there’s no saving them.  Some people just cannot be saved because they are too damn stupid.  You have to have something to work with and if there aren’t even two brain cells firing, there isn’t much you can do.

It’s like arguing with conspiracy theorists.  What do you do with people who can’t conceive of a reality where they aren’t right.  What’s the point of debating the lunatic who thinks the universe poofed out of some god’s asshole 4000 years ago?  How worthwhile is it to discuss matters with the loon who’s convinced 9/11 and the moon landing were hoaxes?  How much with you accomplish  hashing it out with someone who just repeats himself over and over, no matter how entirely discredited his claims?

More and more often, I’m just throwing up my hands and walking away.  At one time, I used to get frustrated and say “you can”t possibly be that fucking stupid,” but today, I just sigh and say “oh look, another moron”.  It’s stopped being a rarity, now it’s the norm.  Fanatics who have no argument other than “I”m right because I”m right” are coming out of the woodwork.

Frankly, I don’t have enough time in my day to spend refuting their stupidity, I know they’re just going to turn around and spew it all over again verbatim.  How worthwhile is it to get my blood pressure up, even though I know I”m wasting my time from the get go?

I’m beginning to think I have better things to do and ought to spend more time doing them.

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