To be honest, I’ve been struggling recently to find a lot of religious topics to talk about. It’s weird, over on my YouTube channel, there is plenty to cover religiously but I can’t find anything political, but here the opposite is true. I talk about political subjects non-stop and outside of Horror Show Sunday, I have to fight to find anything religious to say.
But I’ve been involved in a discussion on atheism, with the tired old canard about atheism being faith that gods don’t exist, instead of the lack of belief in gods, being tossed around by the religious. No matter what anyone says, they will never acknowledge that you can be an atheist and not have a strong, blind faith in the factual non-existence of gods. I think it’s because they’re fighting against the word, not against the concept. They hate the term. If you call yourself an agnostic, they don’t care. Heck, you can call yourself a tuna fish sandwich and they’ll be fine with it. You’d just better not use the word “atheist” or they freak out.
So as the discussion has gone on, we’ve started to talk about why people are religious in the first place and we started discussing that people are afraid of things they don’t understand and therefore, simply make things up, or adopt ideas others have made up, to explain the things they can’t comprehend. That’s the basis for religion. I had a theist come back and attack me, with the following:
By the same token, atheists make up their own solutions to make themselves feel better when the say there are no gods…then run away from the origin of the universe discussion. I guess the origin of the universe isn’t an important enough philosophical discussion?
But that doesn’t describe any atheist I have ever seen. Atheists don’t make up anything. They wait until the objective evidence points to a credible solution. If it doesn’t, they don’t simply invent an emotionally comforting belief system, they say “we don’t know”. Apparently, admitting our current ignorance is the same as running away. It is a fact that while we have a lot of good ideas on the origin of the universe, with a lot of solid mathematical support for those ideas, we just don’t know for sure. We’ve hit a point in our current knowledge and current understanding of science beyond which we have not been able to travel. This is likely a temporary thing, but it doesn’t mean that there’s some imaginary god-figure in the sky, it means we just don’t have the kind of answers that theists seem to want.
Far too many theists want to go dancing down the philosophical primrose path on purely scientific matters, as though noodling their navels can somehow solve our lack of evidentiary answers. It doesn’t. Philosophy is not reality. It does not give us the same kind of answers, in fact, I’d argue that in most cases, it doesn’t give us any credible answers at all. It’s a way of thinking about things, not about discovering the factual truth about things. You cannot get to real-world answers through philosophy. You cannot solve world hunger with philosophy. You cannot heal someone with philosophy. You cannot explore the stars with philosophy. You can’t achieve any demonstrable, factual results with philosophy. That’s not what philosophy is. But when it comes to religion, that’s usually all they have in their tool bag. They have no objective evidence. They have no science. The have no demonstrable facts. All they have is hand-waving philosophical bullshit and they think that because that’s what they have to rely on, that everyone else ought to value that approach as well.
Well we don’t. And we shouldn’t. Because that kind of philosophical nonsense is all you have left when all of the credible methods fail. Sure, philosophy has its uses, but scientific endeavors in the real world isn’t one of them. It’s trying to hit a nail with a feather. You’re going to get nowhere real fast. And that’s exactly what I told this guy, we’ll have to see how he responds, or if he does, as I suspect, just throw around a bunch of insults and run away, doubling down on his own stupidity as usual. It’s the religious way, I guess. That’s why I have no respect for them whatsoever, they haven’t earned it.