The Difference Between Conservatives and Liberals

In having a lot of discussions with both liberals and actual conservatives, not the conservative-in-name-only crowd that tends to populate the modern right wing, I’ve started to notice a few things about their attitudes and their mindsets.  Now I don’t want to make this sound ideological in nature, although I’m sure it will come off as such, this is just an observation I’ve had, biased thought it may be, in my many exchanges with people of various ideological bents.

Liberals tend to think of themselves, they want the government to give them things.  At the very least, they want the position of the government and government policy to make them feel good about themselves and their ideologies.  They’re all about emotional comfort, they want to feel good about the world around them, even if the whole planet is going to hell in a hand-basket, they want to feel like their ideological position is being maintained.  And liberals tend to want help from others.  They want there to be some policy, some program, some governmental office that is there to hand out money if and when they need it.  They look at the government as mother and father, there to take care of them from cradle to grave.

Conservatives, on the other hand, think of society.  They want what’s best for the nation.  They want what’s best for the people.  Even though JFK was a Democrat, his “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” is probably pretty close to conservatism today.  JFK would never survive in the modern liberal society, he’d be run out of town on a rail for daring to suggest that people have any obligation to their society.  I don’t care if a government program might benefit me, I care if it will benefit the nation.  I care if it’s sustainable.  I care if it’s going to leave my children and grandchildren holding the bill.  I don’t want to be benefited to the detriment of others.  I don’t have my hand out.  In fact, even if I qualified for help from the government, the majority of the time I wouldn’t take it because I don’t want the government’s help.  I want to be self sufficient.  That’s a central part of my ideology.  I look at the government as a necessary evil, something that isn’t there to care for me, but to deal with situations that society needs dealt with.

Of course, we have to talk about the stupidity on the far right too.  Which side are they closest to?  Clearly, they are closer to the liberal way of looking at things than the conservative way.  The modern GOP has never met an opportunity to enlarge the government that it didn’t embrace.  They want the government to protect their ideological views and punish those who get in the way.  They want the government to make them feel good, to guarantee their ideological “safety” and hand out money when times get tough.  This is why the modern GOP is more liberal than conservative.  We have no actual conservative political parties in this country, it’s just various shades of liberalism.  That’s just sad.

The one thing that I always look at when evaluating someone’s ideological position is how realistic it is.  How sustainable is this position?  Can you achieve your goals over the long term realistically?  Or is this just wishful thinking, based on emotionalism, that simply could not survive in the real world.  Communism is one of those things.  We saw it in Russia.  We saw it in China. We saw that it falls apart when applied to real people.  Yet there are a lot of leftists who still cling to the emotionally comforting fantasy that communism just might work because it makes them feel good to think that it could.  We’ve got a ton of Bernie Sanders supporters out there who think socialism sounds great because they get free stuff, they just haven’t worked out where all of that money comes from to pay for it.  Money doesn’t grow on trees.  It isn’t sustainable in the long term.  We need a political ideology that actually works and doesn’t fall apart because people don’t work as the system pretends they do. But that’s something for another post sometime, isn’t it?

3 thoughts on “The Difference Between Conservatives and Liberals

  1. "This is why the modern GOP is more liberal than conservative. We have no actual conservative political parties in this country, it’s just various shades of liberalism. That’s just sad."

    I don't know how you can call it a shade of liberalism when it is the sort of thing liberals were fighting against for hundreds of years when the government gave special privileges to nobles over the common people. The special privileges favored by the GOP is a shade of reactionary feudalism, not liberalism.

    1. When you look at the overall practices of the modern GOP, they sure look a lot closer to liberalism than to classical conservatism. Fiscal responsibility and living within your means? Where? Nope, just spend up a storm and borrow money from China! Just like the liberals. Stay out of the lives of the people? Where? Nope, just try to control what people can say and do! Just like the liberals. Both parties do essentially the same thing, they just have different biases to determine how and when they do it. It's the same party with two different heads.

      1. "classical conservatism." or traditional conservatism included a belief in natural law and a transcendent moral order. I don't now what the fuck of giving special privileges to already privileged businesses and wealthy people has to do with liberalism. It reminds me more of Old Europe where the law would give additional privileges to the aristocracy.

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