Endless Emotional Reactions on Abortion

Says the guy whose church supports and defends child molesters.
Says the guy whose church supports and defends child molesters.

It bothers me a bit that so many people are totally unable to set aside their base emotional reactions and actually deal with arguments intelligently.  Quite often, I see this from the liberal side, as I did today on quite a few different claims, where they just reacted, wholly without reason, because they really had no answers to what was being asked of them.  Then I made a mistake and wandered, quite innocently, into the abortion forum to make a single and quite simple statement and I got immediately attacked for it.

Someone had posted that a million fetuses (that’s not the word they used) were killed via abortion per year in the United States.  I said, quite accurately, that in 2012, more than 56 million people died worldwide.  So what if a million fetuses were among them?  It is an honest question and one that anti-abortionists are completely able to parse because they can’t move beyond their foolish “what about the children” rhetoric.  People die every day, often from natural causes, often from disaster, sometimes from human-caused violence.  In the U.S., 37 people, on average, are killed by lightning every year.  What makes  those lives any less valuable than an aborted fetus?  After all, we don’t see these “pro-life” people campaigning to save the electrocuted.

But yeah, the shit hit the fan and I found myself in the middle of a shitstorm because I dared to suggest that all fetuses aren’t that important.  Well, they’re not.  Let’s be honest here, between 25-35% of all pregnancies end in miscarriages, we don’t see the “pro-life” crowd running around whining about those fetuses, do we?  It’s not even a concern because they’re natural occurrences.  In fact, the overwhelming majority of fertilized eggs fail to implant in the uterus at all and are simply flushed from the system, but there is no outrage from the “pro-life” crowd whatsoever.  That means that if they believe in God and are at all honest, then God is the biggest abortionist in history.  Yet bring up that nugget of joy and they run around like someone raped their chihuahua.  There is something wrong with these people.

That’s really why I don’t bother with abortion debates often, usually neither side has the capacity to be at all rational.  You have the rabid, insane anti-abortionists and the rabid, insane hyper-feminists screaming at each other and there’s no point to being involved.  You can’t reason with either side and posting something rational just gets you attacked by both of them.  The simple fact is, there are over 7 billion people infesting this planet today and losing a couple million of them a year to abortion isn’t a big deal.  In fact, if half the population of the planet dropped dead tomorrow, I wouldn’t shed a tear, most people are totally useless sacks of shit in human skin.  We could stand to lose a sizable percentage of them.  Why would I cry about a bunch of fetuses that will almost certainly not amount to anything?  It makes no rational sense to me.

In any case, I might watch the antics in the abortion forum for a little bit, just to have something to shake my head at.  Granted, I don’t need any more things to be frustrated at their stupidity, but hey, when the opportunity presents itself, I might as well.

8 thoughts on “Endless Emotional Reactions on Abortion”

  1. Personally speaking, I'd like to stay alive a little longer. But beyond that, I agree that trying to rationally discuss abortion is close to impossible. I avoid talking about it, unless someone asks me pointblank about the topic. If I know the person asking me has an open mind and is willing to think through what I say, instead of immediately becoming emotional about it, I'll talk about it. Otherwise, I'll tell that person that I'd rather not discuss such a hot-button issue, especially since I'm not married and have no children. I don't feel qualified to have an opinion.

    1. Everyone has a right to an opinion, you don't have to be part of a particular group to have something valid to say on a subject. Some of these hot-button issues really are pointless though because nobody on any side can really take a step back and look at the subject dispassionately. That goes for things like guns and suicide and, for the most part, religion as well. It just gets you nowhere to even bother discussing it with someone who is emotionally attached to their position.

  2. "…most people are totally useless sacks of shit in human skin. We could stand to lose a sizable percentage of them."

    This comment has me wondering how you would score on the Hare Psychopathy Checklist. (http://www.minddisorders.com/Flu-Inv/Hare-Psychopathy-Checklist.html). You certainly display at least three of the symptoms commonly found in psychopaths: egocentricity, shallow emotions and lack of empathy. At the very least you appear to harbor some strong anti-social tendencies.

    1. Yeah, not so much. While you can't take the actual Hare test online, I did find another one that I did take and scored 4. Only people who score over 30 are possibly psychopaths. But then, there's you who seems to have a bizarre compulsion to go around and whine on everyone else's blogs. Wonder what that tells us about your mental state?

      1. It certainly is odd that you characterize my posts as whining. They have always been comments challenging specific things you have written. But then I suppose you consider anyone who does not agree with you and/or has the gall to challenge you has to be of the whining sort. I was merely making the point that your original comment exhibits as astonishing lack of concern for other human beings. You seem to care for no humans other than those in your immediate circle or those who agree with you. I'll accept the results of the test you took and accept you are not a psychopath, though I did not actually accuse you of being one. But I still insist that you exhibit the three traits I mentioned: lack of empathy, egocentricity, and shallow emotions. I notice that you did not deny this or make any effort to refute it. My mental state is perfectly fine. Comments such as the one I addressed should make you and others wonder about your mental state.

      2. Now here is an example of the pot calling the kettle black. You accuse my of writing whiny comments on your blog, yet most of your posts are whiny rants rather than actual arguments. You are almost always berating other people for what you see as flaws in their thinking or behavior. or offering your favorite criticism: they are just making emotional arguments. Of course your comments are seldom free of emotionalism and frequently are barren of any actual argument and/or evidence.

        It truly is both tragic and pathetic that you don't see the weaknesses and flaws in your own thoughts as reflected in much of your writing. Take the comment which I criticized. I just can't imagine why it is that you don't see that no rational-thinking person with more than the barest emotional and psychological health would say such a thing.

  3. "It just gets you nowhere to even bother discussing it with someone who is emotionally attached to their position."

    As if you too are not emotionally attached to yours. That is one whopper of a self-delusion you've attached yourself to.

  4. Even the bible has specific instructions from god on how to perform an abortion. The bible also states clearly that a baby does not have a soul until it takes its first breath. Believers fail to read their own holy book and have no clue what it even says. Many are avid gun owners, celebrate the troops and military as well as capital punishment. But they think that the life of a woman is inferior to that of an undeveloped embryo, zygote or fetus.

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