Got into a debate with an accomodationist over on Twitter today after they started posting to the #atheism hashtag that what people believe is true for them. I disagreed with the sentiment, truth is only true if it’s actually true. People who believe false things, no matter what they believe, still believe in falsehoods. And so began an exchange that lasted a couple of hours and still makes my head hurt. Anyhow, this idiot who goes by @Harrison_Carr, showed me once again why accomodationism is really, really, really stupid.
First off, he was not at all clear on his ideas, which I suppose is par for the course. At first, it appeared that he was arguing for some form of solipsism since he kept insisting that whatever someone believed, no matter how crazy it was, it was actually “true for them”. That’s his phrase. Of course, most solipsists say the same thing so I can be forgiven for being confused, but even after we sorted it out, he kept going back to that phrase over and over. However, I eventually realized that he wasn’t talking about individual realities, but that he didn’t think anyone ought to be corrected or criticized because they won’t change their minds no matter what we do. They’re deluded so we ought to leave them alone to live in their private insanity because nobody should ever feel bad about what they believe.
So I argued that, based on his ideas, we equally shouldn’t argue against racism and sexism or anything else for fear that the believers in those things might feel bad. And you know something? He agreed! We shouldn’t make racists feel bad for believing that non-whites (or non-blacks, etc.) are inferior! It’s fine and dandy! Of course, the fact that someone’s beliefs inform their actions really doesn’t seem to phase him, the idea that the religious are more likely to vote to ban gay marriage, teach creationism in schools or discriminate against other religions doesn’t seem to bother him at all. There’s a complete disconnect in his mind between someone’s beliefs, religious and otherwise, and their actions and we know, for a demonstrable fact, that’s just not the case.
Apparently, making anyone feel bad for any reason whatsoever is a horrible thing. If this idiot had been around in the mid 1800s, we’d still have slavery because he wouldn’t want to offend the slave owners. Luckily, some people had the balls to stand up and do what was right.
We just went around and around, he just couldn’t get the idea that objectively correct ideas are important in and of themselves. People ought not believe anything without significant objective evidence that it’s actually so and the fact that many people are ignorant of that simple fact doesn’t change the reality of the statement. He ran on pure, unfettered emotion without an ounce of intellectual, rational or logical thought. So long as people felt good, it didn’t matter what nonsensical mind poison ran through their head. It was all I could do not to burst out into a Morris Albert song.
Once again, I don’t get these people who can be so totally uncritical of not only their own position, but of everyone else’s as well. This guy would probably be out waving happily to a Neo-Nazi march or a Klan rally. Can’t make those people feel bad either, can we? I wish I got how people could be so mind-numbingly stupid but I just can’t. Anyone care to explain?