There are reasons that I really avoid a couple of debate subjects, like abortion and racism, because the second you make any statements, no matter how mild, the whining liberals are out in force trying to make you seem like a hate-monger. This is really why I utterly hate the whole radical feminist nonsense, because they’re not reasonable, rational people, they’re fanatics.
Unfortunately, I fell into this again when someone on a forum posed a simple question. Given that abortion is legal and the sole prerogative of the woman, should men be given an equal chance to end their financial and social obligations on a pregnancy? I answered that of c0urse they should, if we’re going for equality, if a woman has an “out” on an unwanted pregnancy, it is only fair for a man to similarly get an “out” on an unwanted pregnancy. It’s equal. It’s fair. That’s what we’re supposed to be going for.
But no, the whining self-identified liberals and progressives are out in force. They don’t give a damn about equality. It’s not even in their playbook. We see this among the Atheism+ assholes who are fanatically pro-woman and fanatically anti-man. Of course, it’s not just them, it’s the whole radical feminist movement and that takes up a lot of modern liberal thought.
So anyhow, I make some very simple comments that everyone ought to be equal and if you’re going to give rights to one side, you have to give equivalent rights to the other. I never once suggested taking away anyone’s rights. It was always framed as equality. And then the liberal assholes came out of the woodwork.
Nope, no equality for men. Women have an absolute right to have an abortion if they want it, but if they choose not to have an abortion, then men have no choice whatsoever but to spend 18 years paying for an unwanted pregnancy. Women have rights. Men have none. So lots of people start saying how unfair that is and the liberals start claiming that we all want to take away abortion rights from women! Surely, calling for equality means that we want to eliminate rights! What a bunch of idiots.
But wait, it gets better! The liberals started arguing that if a man wants the same rights, he can get an abortion! Seriously! When I pointed out how perilously close that was to the far-right claim that gays who want equal rights can just marry people of the opposite sex, they called me a gay-hater.
I honestly do not get how my liberal readers can possibly stand up and side with these morons. Seriously, justify being able to stomach standing alongside these cocksuckers. You scream and cry about how horrible the religious right is, how gays deserve equality, when there are people on your own side that are pulling this kind of stupidity? You ought to be ashamed of them and you ought to be ashamed of yourselves for not telling them where to shove their stupidity.
It just makes me sick to see this kind of ridiculous doubletalk and blatant hypocrisy. Worse yet is their complete inability to recognize that they’re being ridiculously hypocritcal. It’s pointed out to them, time and time again and they cannot understand the concept of equality or equivalent rights. The second you suggest an equivalent right for men, they act like you’re taking rights away from women.
So, since I don’t dare open my mouth and suggest actual equality for all, I’ll go ahead and make my suggestion for actual equality for both sides here. Yeah, I don’t expect anyone to like it, but what can you expect?
A woman finds out she’s pregnant. She knows who the father is. If she decides she’s going to keep it, she has to inform the father before she reaches a certain point in the pregnancy. Yes, I know that some women don’t realize they’re pregnant until later, but that’s a relatively rare thing so we’ll leave that to be worked out in those rare cases. I’m not even going to say what that time is, it’s a detail, not a part of the real plan. Once the father has been informed, he has a certain amount of time to decide if he wants to take financial responsibility for the upcoming infant. If he does, fine, everything proceeds as normal. If not though, he files a legal form, provides a certain amount of money, typically I’d suggest an amount to cover the cost of an abortion, and he is freed from any and all financial liability for the child. Then the woman can make her decision, knowing that she is going to be solely financially responsible for the child, whether to use the money for an abortion or not. Regardless, she has no legal recourse to force the father to have anything to do with the child, nor is he able to have anything to do with the child until the child is 18 years old. He is not recorded on the birth certificate, although I think some record should be made in the event of a serious medical emergency where he might need to be contacted. And then… that’s it. He’s no longer the legal father, she’s 100% responsible.
But wait, I hear lots of liberals whine, what if she can’t afford to do it on her own? That’s her problem, isn’t it? She needs to be responsible for her own actions and her own decisions. If she can’t afford to take care of it, then have an abortion or give it up for adoption. I know responsibility is a bad word in liberal circles, but this demonstrates a dearth of irresponsibility from all concerned parties. If these two morons were responsible, they wouldn’t be in bed together without being in a serious, long-term relationship to begin with. They would have decided beforehand if they wanted a pregnancy to occur and if one did, what their response would be to it. It should all be worked out ahead of time. But no, people are stupid and liberals are happy to have stupid people on their side. Their entire political and social philosophy depends on stupidity and irresponsibility.
That’s kind of the whole problem with liberalism.