Maybe It’s Time For Forced Responsibility?

responsibility-1I think I’ve made myself pretty clear regarding irresponsible behavior, I think we’ve created a society filled with people who not only think about the potential consequences of their actions, they just don’t care because no matter what happens, someone else is going to clean up their mess.  I think it’s about time we stopped allowing people to get away with this kind of behavior and started making people’s lives difficult if they continue to engage in it.

I’ve talked about some of my views on welfare, for instance, where I would expect able-bodied people who are getting a government check to be required, in order to keep receiving it, to get an education or job training, to do some form of work and to control themselves.  If they cannot, they don’t get a check, period.

However, someone suggested, like it was a foregone conclusion, that the government ought to hand out condoms for free to any teenager (or anyone else, for that matter) who comes skipping down the primrose path.  It’s cheaper than paying for all the unwanted and/or children that cannot be afforded, isn’t it?

I say hell no.  I say that we don’t just expect people to act irresponsibly (see my post on the subject), but that we expect that they will be responsible and punish the ones who fail to meet our expectations.  Raise the bar, don’t shoot for the lowest common denominator.  Make it hurt when you fuck up.  So in the case of condoms for kids, no.  Let them pay for their own condoms.  If they don’t and they have a kid when they’re still a minor, go straight after the parents.  That’s right, fine the crap out of the parents, after all, it is their *JOB* to raise socially responsible children.  That’s what they owe society and if they fail, then it becomes their personal responsibility to correct the problem.  That means that the parents of both the boy and the girl are now financially responsible for the care and wellbeing of that baby.  Welfare won’t pay for it, they need to work it out and if they fail, then they need to be further motivated.  I don’t care if they need to go out and dig ditches or muck out stables, they’re the ones who failed in their most basic job, I want it to hurt.

Oh, I know the liberals will whine “you can’t control everything your kids do!”  You’re right, but the time to worry about that isn’t when your daughter is pregnant, it’s in the years and years and years you had before that to raise them right.  I have honestly never seen parents who did everything right, who were personally involved and invested in their child’s life and education, who produced a bad seed, except when there was something actually wrong, physically or mentally with the child.  Parents who take the time and responsibility before they get married to get to know each other, who are committed to remaining together and being responsible parents don’t tend to have the kinds of problems that you see with single parents or people who either didn’t bother to get married, or who knew each other for a week before they ran off to get married.  It’s no wonder these people’s lives are ruined, they were idiots to begin with.

In fact, I’d hope that once you started holding people responsible for their own lives and the lives of their minor offspring, people who knew they couldn’t hack it would just stop having children.  Can’t hack it?  Don’t breed!  The idea that popping out a unit every 9 months is some god-given right is idiotic.  It’s not a right, it’s a responsibility.  That might be a bad word to some people, but… well, fuck you.

This country is falling apart, it has been for a couple of decades now and it will continue to disintegrate so long as we don’t hold people accountable for their actions and for the things that they should be responsible for.  I am just sick and tired of hearing about peoples rights, I want to hear about your responsibilities and nobody ever wants to talk about those.

It’s about time that changed.

5 thoughts on “Maybe It’s Time For Forced Responsibility?

  1. Hey, I'm not a liberal, but I think it is better to pass out condoms than punish the boy/man for the results of a policy that discourages condom use. An unwanted pregnancy often punishes the child. You are not a conservative, you are an authoritarian. I'm getting tired of people not honoring my rights (such as Scalia who says we have too many rights). Rights don't come with responsibilities. If the exercise of the right includes something that is irresponsible, what the person is doing that is irresponsible is not exercising a right, but they are committing a wrong. And, of course, a wrong is not a right, even if it doesn't happen to be illegal at the time. I'm tired of people complaining about my rights (which also happens to also be yours, by the way–cops usually complain of too many Constitutional rights unless they are arrested, then they are the first to use them). An example of how our rights are not being protected is the Fourth Amendment, which is, for all practical purposes, almost dead. I can't stand to listen to liberal atheists (I'm an atheist too), but authoritarian atheists are not much better.

    1. Of course rights come with responsibilities, *EVERYTHING* has responsibilities. The right to own a firearm comes with the responsibility to properly handle and store it. There isn't a right out there that doesn't come with requirements on how to properly exercise that right. The biggest problem today is that people think they can do whatever they want and bear no responsibilities whatsoever for their actions. The idea that kids are going to have sex anyhow so you should just make it safer is not a responsible act. The proper course of action is to raise them better, to be able to withstand their base impulses, until they are properly prepared for the potential consequences. Before you say nobody would ever do that, millions do every year and throughout history, millions upon millions more have done so in every generation. Yet by raising kids saying "you're too stupid not to control yourselves" is idiotic. We hold no one accountable for their actions and that is a failure, not only to the individuals, but to society as a whole.

      1. Thank you for letting me have my say. I wouldn't want to stop you from speaking, no matter how much I disagree with you. I agree with you a lot more than I disagree, but the statement "rights come with responsibilities" chaps my hide, LOL.

        You are wrong, at least partially, in my opinion. A good example is the failure of abstinence only education. It is ineffective ( For example, Mormons teach their children "abstinence only" because it is their religious belief, and there are lots of girls who get pregnant anyway (I used to be a Mormon–I'm now an atheist–so I probably saw more than most outsiders would believe or that most Mormons would admit). The Mormons definitely teach that porn use is a sin (and so is masturbating) and a big no-no (and the leaders in interviews ask girls if they masturbate), yet Utah is number 1 in porn use, at least in 2009 ( Sadly, Utah also has a problem with "forcible" rapes (

        If you are "irresponsibly exercising a right" (a contradiction in terms), you are not exercising a right. If what you do is a right, nobody can (legally) stop you from exercising that right because there can be no legal consequences for exercising a right (a "right" is "an entitlement to do something"). However, once you act irresponsibly, you are no longer exercising your "entitlement" but you are acting wrongly. The two acts are separate. The particular right is unrestricted (unless you waive the right, e.g., by talking to the police when you otherwise would have had the right to remain silent). Irresponsibility is a wrong. A right can't be both a wrong and a right, or it is a privilege not a right. If you get caught or something happens, when you let a loaded firearm lay around your house among children, you are not exercising a right. You are acting negligently (a wrong), and if something happens or you get caught even though nothing has yet happened, you can be punished. Acting negligently is not a right. Owning and possessing a gun is a Second Amendment right. Murdering someone (acting irresponsibly) with a gun is not exercising a constitutional right to keep and bear arms. It's stretch to say that the killer is exercising a right, but only irresponsibly, when he is committing a murder. He's committing a wrong, and is no longer exercising a right.

        Another example might be sexual relations with our spouse. It is actually a constitutionally protected right. However, if the man rapes his wife, you wouldn't say he's "exercising his right to sexual relations irresponsibility." You would say, "he's a despicable man committing a rape." The sex is a right. The rape is a wrong that isn't protected.

        My main beef is the claim that we put too much emphasis on rights, and I disagree with that claim. I don't think we put nearly enough emphasis on rights. I do agree with you that we often don't put enough emphasis on responsibility. I want my rights to be protected to the max (even if it means protecting the rights of groups like the disgusting Westboro Baptist Church, which if they were in my area I would participate in counter-protests). Emphasizing responsibility (and punishing it if it is a crime) is not inconsistent with maximum protection of our rights. Once we start claiming that rights are only privileges if the right is not used responsibly, it gives the government an excuse to weaken rights and claim that since so many of us are irresponsible with those rights, we can weaken those rights or that we don't deserve those rights at all.

        Thank you for listening.

        1. Well thanks, although it is my blog and I don't think you could stop me from talking if you tried. :)

          The problem with abstinence-only education isn't the abstinence part, it's the fact that they don't actually educate, they try to indoctrinate. If, instead of saying that some imaginary friend in the sky is going to throw you into an eternal fire if you stray from the one true path, you explained human sexuality in an open, honest, detailed way and then started talking about the possible consequences of sex, with and without protection, and how those consequences can change or even ruin your life, you'd probably have a lot more kids at least looking at it more in-depth. Abstinence is the only 100% effective way to avoid both unwanted pregnancy and sexually transmitted disease. All other forms have at least some risk of failure except for permanent sterilization, which we don't let kids do and it won't stop any STDs. That's the reality, no matter how many people want to pretend otherwise. And no, you can't stop everyone, any more than you can stop everyone from murdering anyone else or driving drunk or whatever, but you don't promote those as a positive lifestyle choice just because you can't stop people from doing them.

          To be honest, I don't think you can justify the idea that sex is a right. Sex is an ability. You can have sex with another individual who agrees to have sex with you. That doesn't make it a right. Nowhere in the Constitution or Bill of Rights does it list sex as a right. It's not specifically granted anywhere in any law that I am aware of. the fact that we can come up with lots and lots of instances where sex is blatantly illegal, such as rape and incest, shows that it isn't a right. This is exactly where most Libertarians get it exactly wrong, they confuse the ability to do a thing with the right to do a thing and because they consider it a right, virtually everything that people can do, that they don't personally oppose, they think people have a right to do and we all know that's not the case.

          We need to start teaching everyone, not just kids although it ought to start there, that having personal responsibility for the things they do is the standard by which everyone will hold them accountable. Actions have consequences and if you make a bad decision or you take a bad action, the consequences generated by that action are yours and yours alone to deal with. That is the only rational way to handle a healthy society and that's simply not how society is done today, which is why most nations are falling apart.

  2. "Parents who take the time and responsibility before they get married to get to know each other, who are committed to remaining together and being responsible parents don’t tend to have the kinds of problems that you see with single parents or people who either didn’t bother to get married, or who knew each other for a week before they ran off to get married."

    You obviously don't live in the real world. To the contrary there are parents who do all the right things and still end up with problem kids. That you haven't met any does not mean they do not exist. It probably means that you have so arranged your life that you don't actually interact with any of these parents. I know they exist because I've seen them. I've interacted with some.

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