Atheism Plus Childish Behavior knows how much I hate to talk about this subject, but it’s just gotten to the point where I have to make a post, then I can put it back into the little box of human stupidity where it resides.  I stopped following the drama in the atheist “community” a while back, especially the obnoxious nonsense that comes along with Atheism+/FreeThoughtBlogs/SkepChick.  I just don’t care and, if not for the fact that I run across it from time to time on other blogs I read or Twitter feeds I follow, I’d likely know nothing about any of this and that would suit me just fine.

Unfortunately, when it does get shoved into my face, I have to say something, especially when it’s abject stupidity like it has been recently.  Without going into too much detail, mostly because I don’t want to be bothered to go look it up myself, Justin Vacula wrote some supposedly humorous text on a picture of Ophelia Benson and posted it on Facebook.  That kind of thing happens all the time and while it’s often childish, it’s not particularly harmful.  Then Ophelia came back, both barrels blazing, demanding that Justin not only not do it again, but demanding that Justin not tag photos on his Facebook page so she won’t get announcements that a picture of her was posted.  And so, the whole childish parade exploded into a Facebook war with both sides launching insults at each other.

In other words, it was completely and totally immature, as virtually everything regarding Atheism+ or its associated blogs is.  The problem is, it’s not just them, it’s everyone on every side of this massive clusterfuck.  They’re all childish!  Reap Paden was childish to change the signs the FtB idiots were holding, assuming he’s the one that did it in the first place, Justin was childish to post it to his Facebook and Ophelia was childish to over-react like she did.  This is yet another hyper-emotional idiot roundhouse, people lobbing grenades at each other because they think it’s funny and it’s really just not.  The more I see any of this behavior, the less impressed with it I become.  It’s assholes to the left of me and assholes to the right.  You have shitheads on the Atheism+ side and just as many of them in the Slymepit.  Is it any wonder why I and most rational atheists want nothing to do with either side?

All both sides are doing is harming the atheist “cause”, if such a word has any meaning.  They cause atheism to be a laughing stock.  Immaturity isn’t something to be proud of, yet these idiots all wear it like a fucking badge of honor.  These are morons who are truly proud of being morons, who would fit in just fine on 4chan/b/, they are not people I would be proud to know, nor are they people I would have any respect for whatsoever.  Unfortunately, there are a lot of people in the atheist “community” that have totally lost any speck of respect I might have ever granted them.  I suspect they don’t care, but they are the reason that I, and so many atheists have really stopped giving a damn about having a non-religious community.  What we have right now is largely filled with assholes and I don’t hang out with or support assholes.

9 thoughts on “Atheism Plus Childish Behavior”

  1. Vacula posted a picture Reap photoshopped to have a group of FtB bullies holding up a "We (heart) Vacula" sign. And, to make it ironic, I thought the picture was an ironic dig at Vacula since the FtB bully crowd shunned him at WiSC2. I also think most people, even as the butt of the joke and not having the '2"x4" of Faux Outrage' up his or her ass, would have found it funny.

    However, Ophelia came in to Vacula's Facebook page, with guns blazing, and accused Vacula of harassing her. Vacula called her a pineapple. Actually, what he said was: "Go home, pineapple" and pointed out that he posted the picture on his Facebook page, gave credit to Raep and moved on with his life.

    Which Ophelia has made into at least one blog post and a twitter/facebook war. One which Justin, frankly, handled pretty well. The only 'bad" thing he did in the whole matter was calling Ophelia an pineapple.

    1. I don't know that there are any really legitimate issues at play here though, it's all emotional hand-wringing. I do agree that a lot of this is very personal. So long as it's nothing more than emotion, nothing will be accomplished.

  2. None of this is a mystery. Atheism, as I discovered when dipping my toes in the waters of the more organized aspects of it years ago, seems to attract a lot of geeky people with personality disorders. I would never hazard a guess at percentages, but it seemed to be a lot. You simply could not have any disagreement with some of these people on even the most innocuous topics. It was seen as an affront to their very being, and the emotion knob had two settings: 1 and 11. Yeah. I need that in my life. Met a few nice folks as well, but I eventually went back to quiet, private atheism.

    1. Yeah. I hear ya. Lately, (I'm sure there are many exceptions–I just don't know any) the only people more annoying than believers are atheists.

      1. Whether I should or not, I hold atheists to a higher standard. They should be rational people but far too many of them are not and the ones that are not are usually the most immature as well. Come on people, grow the hell up!

  3. I lasted about a day on atheism plus before deciding I wanted out. Nobody there knows what is meant by natural continuation, as in a direct opposite to supernatural continuation. I guess they've never heard of eternal recurrence and also aren't aware that there are only three possible perspectives we might hold on the topic of hopeful reality: utter discontinuation, natural continuation, and magical continuation. Their moderators are just as uneducated, and as obnoxious as to use the 'f' word multiple times in one sentence when berating you. And when you quit the site they say that you were permanently banned. Wow! What a bunch of losers! An outright embarrassment to atheists. They have no idea what's coming their way.

    1. Although I was never a member of their forums, I stopped by a couple of times and I agree with what you've said, it's really awful and nobody there has a clue how to debate or what constitutes evidence. They're no better there than on any of the religious forums out there. You can't have a rational discussion with them because they are so buried under radical emotion and utterly unable to examine their own beliefs intellectually, the second you suggest they might be wrong, they start calling you names and banning you from the forum so they can declare victory.

      It's sad that they can't even see that they're acting exactly the same way the religious act.

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