Stupid Illogical Libertarian Bullshit
I really get sick and tired of the irrationality and illogic of some people. This may be especially true of the ultra-far-right Conservatives and Libertarians, the people who keep asserting that there are these magic “rights” that everyone has and they know exactly what they are. How they know, I’m not quite sure and apparently they’re not willing to divulge the secret.
In a recent thread, you got a couple of loons who kept insisting that human rights exist beyond human society. They are, as I’ve termed it, “ethereal”, they just float around and everyone has them and even though they can be violated, pretty much at will, people still have them.
So I asked exactly how they knew about these rights. After all, logic dictates that you must have come to such a conclusion through reason and evidence, but apparently not. Every request for backing is met in silence, every demand for evidence is met with more empty claims. There are rights! How do you know? There are rights!
The fact is, there isn’t any evidence for the existence of these “ethereal” rights. This is more nonsensical “humans are special” lunacy, where humans, just because they are humans, have all these special things that apply only to them. In reality, we’re just smart animals, we form societies, much like many animal species do, and we demand that we ought to be special but in reality, we’re not. There’s no possible way, at least not that I’ve ever seen, to justify a belief in these “ethereal” rights. Just look at history and anthropology, the idea of rights, like the idea of morals, varies wildly across both time and space. Most countries can’t agree on just what rights they have, even over a period of decades, much less over a period of millenia. Rights, like morals, change dramatically. Therefore, picking a set of rights that might give you an emotional woody and demanding that’s the particular set of rights that everyone has now and has always had is absurd to the highest degree. In order to defend the idea that these rights are things that everyone automatically has, you’d have to demonstrate that they are valued worldwide in every country and across thousands of years of human recorded history. It’s simply not the case, therefore there’s no reason to take the claim seriously.
You’re probably thinking this sounds a lot like a religious debate and you’re right. Theists will insist, with no evidence whatsoever, that their particular brand of sky daddy is real and nothing anyone can say will dissuade them from that delusion. None of these people are at all interested in reality, they just want to defend their particular philosophical bent and the hell with anyone who disagrees.
People always ask, since I’m so down on the current Republican party, why I don’t buy into Libertarian rhetoric and this is precisely why. Yes, I might agree with them on a certain number of things, but ideas like this are utterly insane. Maybe I’ll actually do a post on what I fundamentally dislike about the Libertarians, I don’t know. It makes no sense to leave one party that you hate for another party that you hate just as much.
I just wish these people weren’t such illogical idiots. Either come up with a rational, defensible position or stop waving your insanity around for all the world to see. I, for one, am tired of it.
3 Comments to “Stupid Illogical Libertarian Bullshit”
Sometimes when I'm bored, I'll look through people who have linked to me and I found this individual here who "reviews" this article, saying it's little more than "I don't like Libertarians". Apparently, this is someone who neither read nor understood what I was saying. Any political party which just makes up its own axioms and claims them as factual truth is committing a logical fallacy. What many libertarians have done in the pursuit of "natural rights" is exactly that, they've taken something they wished was true and demanded that it must be without providing a shred of evidence or logical reasoning for how they've come to that conclusion. That's the point I was making. If all this "reviewer" can come up with is that I don't like libertarians, I must question their critical thinking skills. Maybe they just love libertarians and are looking at the world around them with rose-colored glasses.
Libertarianism? Yes, it's nothing more than banter. I've seen them claim, since I wrote the article, that their view of rights is a "moral assumption" and since it's a "moral assumption" they have no obligation to actually back it up.
Major stupidity.
I had greater expectations for the argument. Sadly it was nothing more than banter.
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